Seeing the Invisible

—From Rumi’s Poetry to the Fullness of Atoms

By Doug Marman

“Whirling Dervish” by Mitra Shafaei

Last summer I was invited to speak at a talk for “Spiritual Dialogues on Rumi’s Legacy and Teachings,” in Toronto, Canada. It is part of an on-going series of public talks on Rumi and Consciousness. The group has been using my book, “It Is What It Is — The Personal Discourses of Rumi,” along with Rumi’s poetry, to explore the hidden teachings behind Rumi’s teachings. I gave the talk based on a simple lesson I’ve learned:

Something extraordinary takes place when discovering new insights into life through deep discussions with friends. Time seems to stand still as new perspectives suddenly open up before us. In such moments we sense the scope of truth so fully, as a whole, that it alters our experience, giving us the feeling we are touching life itself. This is the magic of spiritual dialogue.

A thirty minute video captures a portion of this talk. It is called, “Seeing the Invisible — From Rumi’s Poetry to the Fullness of Atoms. You can see the video below:


4 thoughts on “Seeing the Invisible

  1. Hi Doug…Was trying to follow up on your claim elsewhere here that Kabir was a Mahanta according to Paul Twitchell. Do youhave a direct source of that p.o.v.

    “The guest is inside you, and also inside me; 
    you know the sprout is hidden inside the seed. 
    We are all struggling; none of us has gone far. 
    Let your arrogance go, and look around inside. 

    The blue sky opens out farther and farther, 
    the daily sense of failure goes away, 
    the damage I have done to myself fades, 
    a million suns come forward with light, 
    when I sit firmly in that world. 

    I hear bells ringing that no one has shaken, 
    inside “love” there is more joy than we know of, 
    rain pours down, although the sky is clear of clouds, 
    there are whole rivers of light. 
    The universe is shot through in all parts by a single sort of love. 
    How hard it is to feel that joy in all our four bodies! 

    Those who hope to be reasonable about it fail. 
    The arrogance of reason has separated us from that love. 
    With the word “reason” you already feel miles away.”
    ― Kabir

    • Thanks for Kabir’s poem. Beautiful.

      I’m not sure Paul Twitchell ever said directly that Kabir was a Mahanta, but he often listed Kabir as one of the great Masters who brought out the teachings of Eckankar that Paul was writing about.

      For example, early in the Introduction of Paul’s book, Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad, Book I, he talks about how the teaching was first brought out by Rama, then was hinted at in the writings of Rumi, followed by Kabir. Near the end of chapter 1 in Paul’s book, The Key to Secret Worlds, he talks again how the teachings of Eckankar were first brought out by Rama, and then says, “No instructions were ever written down and distributed until Kabir, a direct descendant in the line of Rama’s spiritual mastership, came here especially for this purpose.” That is his most direct statement that I could find.

      Paul also has some words to say about Kabir, Rumi, and Shams-i-Tabriz, in chapter 5 of his book, Letter’s to a Chela. He also spoke about Rumi and Kabir often in many of his talks, but it would take too long to track those down.

      I have not tried to make any claims about Kabir or Rumi or Shams except to speak from my own understanding. I think that when it comes to Mastership, or the Mahanta Consciousness, we are talking about an inner authority that goes beyond any books or outer records. This is exactly the same thing Paul was saying in his books. He was not trying to set down some outer authority on these things, but to give readers a way of judging for themselves through their own spiritual experiences with these great beings and the teachings they left us. That is the nature of those who carry inner authority. There is no outer proof of it, only our own person inner experiences.

      Thanks again for Kabir’s poem.


  2. We were truly fortunate to host Doug & his wife Karen in Richmond Hill, Canada. What a pleasure and unforgettable experience to spend time with them. The talk that Doug gave on Sunday afternoon was received very well. The friends who attended the talk left that evening with a no questionable spiritual glow.

    Thank you Doug & Karen for letting us have such an incredible experience!
    We cannot wait to have you and Karen again for another uplifting event in near future.

    Much love,

  3. Dear Doug,
    We were so blessed to have you here.
    Thank you for coming; NOTHING could explain our feeling and joy.
    You planted the spiritual seeds and it’s up to us to water and take care of them. Hopefully we can See the INVISIBLE !
    We look forward to seeing you again
    Thank you and Karen

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